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>> is he always like this? (cheers and applause). >> stephen: this is actually much nicer than i usually am. (laughter) >> . >> stephen: okay so how do you know that he developed this? >> because he befriended a young belgian diplomat that was living in london, the government was in exile. an when the nazis took over belgium. and he taught it to this man and this man taught it to me. i was u.s. ambassador to nato. >> stephen: so the only three people on the planet were playing it at one point? churchill taught. i know he taught a friend of mine. a couple of friends of mine who were still alive. but most of them were gone through the ages. >> stephen: how much is this going to cost me, don rumsfeld? >> think of it this way. every cent of profit goes to charities, generally to support the military or their families or the families of the wounded. (applause)
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and i hope you spend a lot of money. >> stephen: isn't it free? isn't it a free app. >> the first one. >> stephen: at first it's free. >> there are a few free ones and then they start asking you to sign up for more games. >> stephen: you know this makes you sound like a crack dealer, donald rumsfeld. >> no. (laughter). >> stephen: that's what you sound like. stick around, i want to talk about important things happening in the world that you might have an opinion on. will you do that? >> i will try to answer. >> stephen: okay. >> but i'm basically very shy. >> stephen: you're a very shy person? >> yeah, yeah. >> stephen: i'm sure. the app is called churchill solitaire, we'll be right back with more donald rumsfeld. stick around. st opinion about this new car. to keep things unbiased, we removed all the badging and logos. so, what do you think it is? i would say lexus. maybe acura. feels like a bmw. let's look at the interior. reminds me of the inside of my friend's lexus.
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siri, open maps. nice. wow. she gets me. someone really took their time laying this out. yeah. this car also has teen driver technology. it even mutes the radio until the seatbelts are buckled. wow. my husband could use that. i'm very curious what it is. what price range would you put this car in? fifty to sixty-five. the eighty-thousand dollar bracket. well, what if i told you this is the 2016 chevy malibu? this is a malibu? yeah, let's go check it out. no way, it's a chevy! oh, wow. and it sells for? it starts at twenty-two five. \ gasp! what? oh wow. p i'm very impressed. yeah. i mean with all this technology? that's a game changer, really. i want one. i'll take the house, too. here we go. ah man, who invited these guys? hey clay, it's cool if we order some delivery? it' s time for you guys to make the right call. we're having digiorno pizza, tfresh-baked in my own oven. t okay. it' s not delivery, it' s
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,, ,, ,, ,, >> stephen: welcome back, everybody.
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okay, secretary rumsfeld, donald rumsfeld, are you ever upset that now there is another donald out there who is even more famous than you about not apologizing for anything? because he will not back down from anything he's ever said. do you-- does he strike you as a commander in chief? >> i don't know him. i've never met him. >> stephen: really? >> what strikes me about him is that he's-- i can't imagine how bernie sanders and donald trump can pull crowds of 20,000 people to an event to hear them speak. presidents don't do that. vice presidents don't do that. >> stephen: i think they're appealing on an emotional level. people are very frustrated with what is going on in washington and whether or not you agree with what either man is saying, they're saying i agree with you. we have to change the status quo in some ways. >> i think you are probably right. they are touching a nerve somewhere. >> stephen: does the secretary
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implement policy? maker. and he takes recommendations from his cabinet and from senior officials in the white house. and then he makes a judgement. he decides what ought to be done. and the american people basically decide because they president. works. >> stephen: when the decision was played to go into iraq in 2003, the situation that we have now which is a chaotic iraq and syria with control of isis and or the chaos following the arab spring in areas as well, is the situation we have now, was it ever considered to be an outcome? was this a worst-case scenario or a beyond worst-case scenario? >> i think the disorder in the entire regon and the conflict
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is something that generally people had not anticipated. on the other hand, if you think what eisenhower said, he said the plan is nothing, planning is everything. the point being that anything changes with first contact with a problem. the enemy has a brain. they make decisions. people ask me well, why are they doing what they're doing. and the answer is they're doing what they are doing because they can do it. because they don't have big armies, big navies, big air forces which they can't compete with us. so they are attacking from an assymetrical standpoint and they're trying to destroy the nation state concept in the world. the first thing they do is to eliminate a border, for example, between iraq and syria. >> stephen: the top two republicans and the top two democrats, none of them think that going into iraq was the right choice to make. do you have any reflection on the decision to go into iraq? do you still think it was the right thing to do 12 years later?
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made the decision, there were-- the iraqi government had opposed something like 15 or 16 u.s. resolutions. they were reprossive. they had used chemical weapons iranians. they used chemical weapons on their own population, the kurds. and there was a lot of evidence that they-- they already used chemical weapons. and it seems to me the president intelligence community made the right decision. in retrospect, they didn't find large cashes-- caches of chemical or biological weapons. although the u.n. inspector did say they had the facilities still there, the people were still there, they had the capability and the precursors to these weapons were still there. and they could have reconstituted them in a matter of weeks. >> stephen: there is one question that gets asked of you and other people who were in favor of the invasion of 2003 in iraq that i just question i
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which is. >> then why ask an unfair question. >> stephen: no, no, no i will tell you why i think it's unfair, i will ask a different question. i think this question is unfair, which is if you knew now-- if you knew then what you knew now, would you maked same decision. you only then what you know then. >> that's right. >> stephen: you only now now what you know now. and our now is tomorrow's then. so they'll be saying the same things to the decisions gets made today, 15 years from now. >> it's true. >> stephen: but that leads me to your most famous saying which is talking about uncertainty in the world. that there are no knowns, things we know we know, and tell me if i get this wrong. cuz i know this is your baby. there are known unknowns. things we know that we don't know. and there are also unknowns unknowns. >> but in this case, isn't the one that got us something that is-- there's a fourth option
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which is the unknown knowns. which is the thing that we know, and then we choose not to know them or not let other people know we know. that there are some things-- (applause). >> stephen: recently a 2002 memo from the joint chiefs of staff says that 90% of the. >> i'm going to save you embarrassment. >> stephen: i can't be embarrassed, i'm a comedian. this thing came out, it says our knowledge of the iraqi new clear weapons program is based largely perhaps 90% on analysis of imprecise intelligence. so there is analysis of intelligence that you believe that there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq, and i believe that sin certificately. i don't think anybody made up the belief that there were weapons of mass destruction. that is cynicism beyond i would ever want to think of my government. i believe that everybody believed that they were there.
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they were there. >> uh-huh. >> stephen: and yet it was presented to the american people as if there was. so there was an unknown known for the american people. it was known that there was not hard evidence, but we were presented a partial picture. and that's the unknown known that we were denied. do you think that was the right thing to do? >> well, first of all, that memo was sent by the joint chiefs of staff. >> stephen: yes. >> and we put it on my website. >> stephen: uh-huh. >> and made it public years ago. >> stephen: i know it's declassified. >> well, yeah, but-- i don't put classified things on my website. (laughter) i want you to know that. >> stephen: all right. you can get in trouble for that. >> yeah. >> stephen: i'm not trying to you an unfair question, i'm trying to ask you what i think is a fair thing. were there things that the administration, or you knew that we didn't learn about out of the best possible intentions which
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undermine the case for a war you thought was necessary to save the united states. >> the president had a available to him intelligence from all elements of the government. and the national security council members had that information. it was all shared. it was all supplied. and it's never certain, if it were-- if it were a fact, it wouldn't be called intelligence. >> stephen: wow. i think you answered my question. (laughter) i mean-- is intelligence is tough to do. and what you do is you look at all of that and if you've got a certain set of facts that you can never fie 100 percent, and then there is information that is not capable of being verified
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that aggregation of information that presidents make decisions all the time. >> stephen: i guess the ultimate question is, is that because there turned out to be no weapons of mass destruction and because the american people now feel a majority that it was the wrong war, do you think it undermines our trust of the government, that is necessary for your intelligence apparatus that you are describing to do their job. because if you say trust us, we've got this, and you get it so wrong, isn't another level of damage that we won't trust them next time. >> i think there's always a risk that people looking at government will come to the conclusion that they may not be right. that is why we have a democracy. i mean that's why people vote and they make judgements. and we-- i think most people in the united states understand that government is not perfect.
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get snow removed. but on the other hand, i think what's really important are the intentions and the capability of the people and for the most part, i think it was churchill who said that democracy is the worse form of government except for any other that's ever been >> stephen: you no he what else he said? try my solitaire game. churchill solitaire. donald rumsfeld, everybody. >> thank you. talk with you. >> thank you fact. advil pain relievers are used by more households than any other leading brand. to treat their aches and pains more people reach for advil. relief doesn't get any better than this.
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everybody. my next gust is a point guard for the oklahoma city thunder, a five-time nba all-star, olympic gold medalist, fashion designer and a philanthropist. please welcome russell westbrook. (applause) or as i point guard for oklahoma city thunder, just selected to nba all-star team for the fifth time, game february 14th, congratulations. >> thank you, thank you, thank you. >> stephen: 2015 all-star game mvp, average 24 points per game,
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in assists. are you just absolutely petal to the metal all the time, especially when it comes to the dunks. jim? a vicious slam. whoa! >> stephen: wow. (cheers and applause) not everybody dunks that hard. you see kevin dur ant he's yourself. >> i worry myself sometimes, i do, i do. >> stephen: when you dunk that net makes a whip crack sound. >> yeah, you know, i like to dunk hard because i don't like guys to block my shot. so i figure it is the only way if a dunk very, very hard so that is what i try to do.
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you know, do you get extra points for dunking harder, because-- some of those was like you should get four points. >> i really wish they changed the rule where the harder you dunk the more points you get. i would get a lot of points. >> stephen: do you remember your first dunk. >> i do. my furs dunk was a high school game against my rival high school, got a fast break. i hadn't dunked before but i knew when i got a chance i was going to jump as high as i could. i got about this much over the rimk dunked the hardest i could, my first dunk so i was happy about that. >> stephen: actually making your first dunk give you the power to dunk higher the next time because now you know you can? >> it gives you a sense of confidence. that was my first time dunking in the game so from then on i have been dunking ever since. >> stephen: no one can doubt your sense of confidence. i mean you show it in your style. let me talk about some of the things you wear out and about. you are a fashion play. this right here. >> yeah. >> stephen: that is you, i got to say you look good in this.
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face if i wear that out. here is another one. this is you just on a chilly night, just keeping toasty warm. >> yeah, it was cold here. i was actually here in new york, fashion week. i was running around and i got a little cold. have i my lint roller in my hand, you can tell. >> stephen: you travel with a lint roller? >> you know, i was afraid the -- would get on my clothes and the whole get-down. >> stephen: you could pay someone to do that for you. >> yeah, i would rather do it myself. >> stephen: this one i like to, the glass is right there, they don't actually have lenses. >> no lenses. i see better without them. >> stephen: wow. it's funny, i actually have lenses with no frames. you are praims with no lenses. >> see. >> stephen: you brought me a little selection. >> i do. i have-- . >> stephen: you have your own line of glasses. >> i do have my own line of glasses, i do. >> stephen: what are they called westbrook frames. >> stephen: that will do it. do you have any suggestions because i will go with yours. >> let me see. let me look.
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>> stephen: really? >> the green ones. they are call the the venice. >> stephen: venice? >> the venice. let me see. (cheers and applause) >> looking good, looking good. stephen, the first thing somebody said is you look hot. that is-- that's a good thing. >> stephen: let me try this one on. i like this. >> okay. >> stephen: i don't think i have enough skull to pull this one off. it looks like i'm going to start welding. >> those are even bigger. >> stephen: you want to try one? >> okay, i will go with these. (laughter). >> stephen: i think i look a little bit like mid '80s sally jessie rafael. those are nice because those are actually camo pattern cuz you can wear those and no one will know you have them on. >> not at all. >> stephen: where do you get these?
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westbrookframes.com. >> stephen: and you also have your own line at barnies. >> i do. >> stephen: are these the kind of clothes that would look good on a guy who is not 6 foot 3 and an nba player, i could wear them. >> absolutely, 100 percent. yeah, yeah, sure. (laughter). >> stephen: thank you for that vote of confidence. >> i have a jacket on here. >> stephen: i could wear that, i could wear that. >> see? >> stephen: yeah, good luck with the mvp. i'm sure are you being to get it ingo. good luck with the all-star game. >> thank you, i appreciate it. >> stephen: check out russell's designs at barneys and westbrook frames.com. russell westbrook, everybody. thank you so much excuse me, but what does this have to do with chemistry? this isn't 'advanced figure drawing'? down the hall. well, do you mind if i borrow some of your cologne? confulish.
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the difference between possible and impossible? it's a person who believes they can, surrounded and supported by others-by us- who believe it, too. u.s. bank -- the power of possible. >> stephen: here to perform the long way around from his album standing in the breach, ladies and gentlemen, jackson browne. >> i don't know what to say about these days i'm seeing people changing in the strangest ways
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neighborhoods people don't know when they got it good they got the envy and they got it bad when i was a kid everything i did was trying to be free running up and down tinsel town with the fire inside of me my planets all in retrograde the best of all my plans got made i made my breaks and some mistakes just not the ones people think i made i'm a long way gone down this wild road i'm on
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bound it's a long way around it's a little hard keeping track of what's gone wrong the covenant unravels and the news just rolls along some two or three disasters ago it's hard to say what did more ill, citizens united or the gulf oil spill i'm a long way gone down this wild road i'm on it's gonna take me where i'm bound
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it's never been that hard to buy a gun now they'll sell a glock 19 to just about anyone the seeds of tragedy are there and what we feel we have the right to bear and watch our children come to harm there in the safety of our arms we all disagree about the passions burn, heart goes out i'm a long way gone down this wild road i'm on it's gonna take me where i'm
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it's a long way around (cheers and applause) >> stephen: jackson browne, everybody. standing in the breach.
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,, >> stephen: that's if for the thanks so much. i want to thank jackson browne for making it here through the snow tonight. our musical guest originally scheduled anderson pack could not make it through the blizzard but they will be here next wednesday. and tomorrow my guests will be laurence fishburne, paleontologist mike novacek. stick around for james corden, good night, everybody. >> reggie: are you ready to have some fun get down tonight don't you worry about that quinoa it will turn out good
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it's "the late late show"! ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the one, the only james corden! ( applause ) captioning sponsored by cbs >> james: good evening. welcome to "the late late show." thanks, guys. thank you. ladies and gentlemen, it has been a tough weekend. and our hearts tonight are with paris. i think we can all agree -- ( applause ) it's been difficult and it's been sad and it is hard to put into words the feelings of sadness, of anger, confusion,
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witnessing the horrific scenes that happened in paris. it's a city that is full of beauty, of art, of culture, of life, and nothing will ever change that. ( applause ) i was in london over the weekend and as i was landing back into los angeles last night, i could see from my window the lights of l.a.x., all lit in the colors of the french flag. it was a wonderful thing to see. it was a sign of the world unifying behind right over wrong, standing together with the people of france. times like these test us and our response in coming together is crucial. that response isn't always perfect. there was a moment of an nfl
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statement. during a moment of silence at the packers game, one very misguided fan yelled out "muslims suck." which is obviously awful. this guy probably thought he had everyone's support when he yelled it out, but you just know as soon as he said it, he looked around and was like -- "oh no. i've made a terrible mistake. even the people with him were like "dude." it's pretty bad when you're the most embarrassing person in a stadium full of adults dressed ( laughter ) even those guys were like put the shirts on. you have ruined it. you have ruined it. now if you're thinking of yelling something out during a moment of silence, here's what you can do to curb that urge. ok. what you do is you hold your breath, count to 10, and then
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forever. ( laughter ) sort it all out. later, in a press conference after the game, green bay packers quarterback aaron rodgers had some words for the offending fan. >> i must admit that i was very disappointed with whoever the fan was who made a comment they thought was really inappropriate during the moment of silence. it is that kind of prejudicial ideology that puts us in the position that we're in today as a world. >> james: just when you thought you couldn't love aaron rodgers any more, he goes and throws in the words "prejudicial laughter ) he's an nfl quarterback. usually a football player's postgame comments are "we worked really hard. we played really hard. we tried to win by playing hard. and working hard. so in conclusion playing hard and working hard was how we tried to win." aaron rodgers is a total
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isn't he? he's definitely on my fantasy team. he really is. and i don't mean football, i mean the team of people that make up my fantasies. he really is. but look. the truth is i hope this fan learned his lesson. you would think a football fan that can memorize that aaron rodgers' completion percentage is 66.4% or that green bay runs for 226 yards per game at a 4.3 yards per carry average, would be able to understand that more than 99.9999% of muslims are not terrorists. ( applause ) but hey, we're going to try to make you laugh tonight. we have a fun show. thank you for being here. reggie, are you ready? he's reggie watts. i'm james corden, and this, this
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roll the titles! >> reggie: the late, late show, oh, oh the late, late show, ooh the late, late show, oh, oh the late, late show oh, oh the late, late show ( applause ) >> james: all right. shall we see who our guests are on the show tonight? ladies and gentlemen, in the blue room, you know her from "game of thrones" and the "hunger game" movies. the beautiful and enchanting natalie applause ) hi, natalie, how are you? >> i'm very well. how are you, james? >> james: very well. >> i missed you in london. caught up with you here. >> james: it is amazing that our paths have never crossed. our paths will cross tonight and we will complete crossing those paths. is that all right with you? >> yes.
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everybody. in the orange room, he's an emmy-award-winning actor who plays phil on "modern family." he is so good. so funny. so beautiful. so handsome. mr. ty burrell is here tonight. >> hey, james. how are you? just in here with my super cool hollywood entourage just popping bottles and making it rain. >> james: can we have a look? i'm sure we would all love to see what a big hollywood entourage -- how, wow. oh, wow. >> also doing some old time leg wrestling. >> james: ty burrell, everybody! ( applause ) we also have some music tonight. in the red room, he's sold over 5 million albums worldwide. it's the grammy-nominated, hip- hop sensation. jeezy! hey, jeezy. how are you?
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what's going on? >> james: nice to see you. that is everything. in ty burrell's head. that's what he feels like now. that jacket. that is a great jacket. >> thank you. >> james: it really is. >> thank you. laughter ) just saying it is an exceptional jacket. >> that's it. we'll stop there. applause ) fun show. fun show. now we have a big week coming up, and that includes something very exciting. we have a brand new "carpool karaoke" this week. if you're excited now. none other than justin bieber got back in the car again to help me get to work. we're going to show that later in the week. you guys don't want to see a
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) really? you want to see a clip now? let's get lost tonight play a [beep] what they all say tonight they don't make them like this anymore i ask because i'm not sure >> james: it was so much fun. i'm so excited. i don't know if anybody saw this. did anybody see in this week? last week shia labeouf watched all of his films in one go at a theatre with some of his fans. people stood in line for hours to watch shia's movies with him, and his reactions while watching the movies have been everywhere. this inspired us, didn't it,
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it inspired us so much that reggie and i have spent the last three days watching all 106 episodes of "the late late show" in a cinema. it has been incredible, right, reggie? >> reggie: it was a lot of furniture. >> james: it was moving. it was emotional. take a look. all right. are you ready, reg? >> reggie: yeah. let's do this. >> james: this is "the late late show." it's "the late late show" whoo! ( laughter ) >> james: stop it! james, take blindfold off.
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your face. one of the most outspoken and stylish stars. >> reggie: who is it? who is in the blue room? >> james: i mean, studly is the word, right, reggie? randy quaid. if you told me this time last year that i would be sat here hosting "the late late show." ( crying ) ( laughter ) >> you spend your life being watched. horizons. >> james: it is david beckham. >> reggie: what is with the pillow? >> james: david beckham. >> james: has a new hobby. >> i now do ceramics. >> james: john has a wonderful
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this is exciting. new book, "the blue bloods" cookbook. tomorrow night "ncis: new orleans" has their season finale. >> reggie: this is the only late show that has done 106 episodes. ( applause ) >> james: we have a fun show tonight. stick around. we'll be right back. >> reggie: hi, i'd like to make a dep-- scanner: rescan item. rescan, rescan. rescan item.
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,, ( applause ) >> james: welcome back. am just released a brand new update for the apple watch, which included some brand new hidden features. i've heard it even has a tiny clock feature! what will they think of next? anyway, here are some of the secret hidden features i'm most excited about. i don't know if you have seen this one.
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it is great if you have a big announcement. you know what i mean? you can go -- ( drum roll ) you are not the father! you're the mother! gender roles. got it? or you can use it if you're an employer and you can only promote one person. you can gather everyone together and you can go and the promotion goes to... ( drum roll ) daryl. sorry, everyone else. sorry about that. oh, wasn't even doing it. ( drum roll ) must be some kind of glitch. this next one, i love the harmonica app which plays the harmonica whenever you raise your hands to your mouth. so you can just --
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that is actually what bono uses to play harmonica. he's never actually held a harmonica in his life, but you'd never know. he really sells it. you know what i mean? he is just like -- ( laughter ) and then -- ( laughter ) this next one is fun for parties. it is called the rave app. all you do is spin your arms and you're at a rave, immediately. this party is so much better now! and i really want a ring pop. it's also great for when you want to get out of a tough discussion. like if someone with terrible hair goes -- "what do i think of your new haircut?" i can't hear you! i'm too busy raving.
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it. movie fans will enjoy the "home alone" feature. perfect for when the restaurant and you say can i get a pot pie and they say we are out of pot pies. you can do it to anything. you know what i mean? if someone says i'm going away you're going to be here all on your own. you're going to be like -- this next one, i really love. you know how when you sing happy birthday there's always that one person who shows off at the end? maybe you want to be that person. you haven't got the voice for it. you do now. you use the diva app.
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) >> james: there is really no place you wouldn't use this. there is no way you wouldn't do it. it just comes in when you just go... ( vocalizing ) >> james: this one is my favorite. this is the salsa app. you know when you want to dance and the dance is inside you but the salsa is not there. >> james: it stops as soon as but when you put it back up. avocado >> james: that is the great thing about it. the party started, throw them
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who knows when you might just want to be like oh, hang on a minute. shall we have a rave and they are like -- ( laughter ) i don't know why the rave music is -- there must be a glitch. sorry. i hadn't set it to the -- ahhh! or you go, ladies and gentlemen, i will now play the harmonica. that's terrible harmonica playing, reggie! >> reggie: yeah, it is a bad app. >> james: i imagine this stuff.
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ok. >> james: try it again, i don't think anybody noticed. still doing it! you fancy going salsa dancing? >> reggie: avocado avocado >> james: ( vocalizing ) forget it! you're a joke! hagar is the only person playing that together. i know if she is the only person i put the bass up on, she can just -- forget it! we'll be right back with natalie dormer and ty burrell.
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